Hagemann

 

Joachim Diedrich Hagermann

During the Swedish control of Breman and area a young boy named Hagemann (B. 1670) from the village of Wiezen was cultivating his fathers field with oxen or horses. As the Army passed by they took the boy and the oxen and he was not heard from for many years. Hagemann apparently became a soldier of fortune, selling his services to the highest bider. By the time he reached his 40’s he was in Constantinople and he decided he had had enough and that it was time to return home.

Arriving back in Wiezen he found that his parents had passed on and his brother was running the family farm. He did not want to farm anyway so he moved into Bremen. The family eventually purchased and ran the Stadt London hotel. The Hotel was built between 1780 and 1785 and was situated in an extremely good place at a time when direct trade with the USA was established.  In fact Bremen became a favourite harbour for American ships. The front of the hotel was on the main street (Langenstrasse) and the back faced the river so travellers from ships anchored there had direct access to the hotel. From 1800 to 1804 the Hotel was managed by the Hagemann brothers and by 1805 Joachim Deitrich Hagemann was the sole owner.

EPSON MFP imageThe Hagemann’s also carried out a wine trade with a preference for very excellent French wine and a coffee and wine room were added to the hotel. In 1806 Napolean took Breman and imposed a continental blockade against Britain. As a result trade was drastically reduced and the economy of Breman suffered. the Hagemann’s sold the hotel in 1826 although a restaurant was apparently opened later.

Joachim Deitrich Hagemann married Bertha Mahnehen (daughter of Clause Hagemann) There were seven children from the marriage.  Nicholas, born in 1827, died of yellow fever in Havana in 1797. Johann Fredrich emigrated to the US via England in order to escape Napoleon’s draft.

Gottlieb Hagerman

Gottlieb Hagerman

Gottleib was the next eldest son and had to take his brothers place in the French army. He was conscripted in in 1813 and his regiment was turned back from participating in the battle of Liepseg in 1814. In 1815 he was in the Hanover army and was a days march from the battle of Waterloo. His service ended shortly after and he returned to Bremen. His younger brother Joachim Diedrich (1796 – 1868) had received a good education and trained as a navigator. He sailed to the Virginia coast and the west Indies until He an Gottlieb  immigrated to the US. settling first in Petersburg in Virginia then moving to Minden N.Y. They ended their travels in Cheltenham Ontario.

Gottleib never married but is remembered for carving wooden toys for the children he knew. He is buried in the Inglewood cemetery.

Joachim married Sophia Haines (1813 – 1896), the daughter of Charles and Martha Haines. Charles (1787 – 1865) was from Cheltenham England and became the founder of Cheltenham Ontario while Martha (1786 – 1858) was from Oxford. The Haines family tell of their fathers anger (near the end of the Rebellion) at the searching of private homes by parties of rowdies calling themselves loyalists. “The third day after the rebellion there came to my fathers door 36 gun thieves. A minster holding service in the old log house was at prayer when we heard a bayonet jabbed in the door with a damn you pray quick and deliver up your arms. Our good rifle and shotgun were taken. I said if you get my rifle you get it empty but my father and the minster persuaded me to give it up.”

Joachim Diedrich Hagerman

Joachim Diedrich Hagerman

Joachim and Sophia had six children, one of whom was named Anna who eventually married James Hunter.

Joachim’s three sisters Metta, Hentietta and Anna remained in Bremen all their lives. Henrietta married a man named Hack and had a son who became an accountant in Washington D.C. The sisters lost track of Gotleib and Joachim for many years but Aunt Anna reestablished contact with Anna Hunter and there are several letters in German from her telling of her life in the old country.

 

 

 

 

 

8 thoughts on “Hagemann

  1. Wow! This is amazing! I never expect to find my own family written about on another person’s blog. I’m a descendant of Joachim Diedrich Hagerman and Sophia Haines through their daughter Harriet Hagerman Shipley.

    I love the pictures! I have some additional details and I’d love to compare notes.

    Hoping to hear back,
    Rich Capen
    clsk22@gmail.com

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    • Hi Rich
      I didn’t think anyone would be interested in this. I was doing it for my kids and to preserve this box of pictures and bits and pieces I inherited. I have not done an update since Christmas and I have to get back to it. I would love to see anything you might have. I also have some very old Hagemann letters written to and from relatives in Bremen in the 1800’s

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    • Hi Rich,
      My family bought the property in the early 1940’s and I have lots of information including the original patent document with seal from Queen Victoria and certified copy of the patent from MNRF plus photos etc. Where are you located? I can email some photos of the document from Queen Victoria but they are not the clearest.
      Lisa Nichols

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  2. I’d love to see anything you have – especially the letters from Germany. I have a few old Hagerman letters, too which I’m happy to share.

    If you tell me your email address I can send some things today.

    Thanks,
    Rich Capen
    clsk22@gmail.com
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  3. I looked around and found some old letters to Harriet Hagerman Shipley (my 2nd great grandmother) from her brother Albert. Written 1905-1910. I also have 5 or 6 letters from Sophia Marshall White, daughter of Mary Hagerman Marshall – Harriet’s sister. Same time frame. I’ve got a letter from Harriet’s son William (my GGF) talking briefly about the Hack family back in Germany. I’ve got a 10-page write-up called “Descendants of Joachim Dederick Hageman”. I have data from a German genealogy that says Joachim Hagemann’s wife was Tobetha MAHNCKEN, which fits the spelling of other families in Bremen. And a few other things. Happy to share, though you’ll need to give me an email address or mailing address.

    As mentioned I’d love to see whatever you have, particularly if it relates to life back in Bremen. Do you know the name of the Hack family member in Washington DC? Do you know anything about the younger Joachim’s siblings, other than Gottlieb? Do you know the translations of the two German postcards on this page?

    Hoping to hear back,
    Rich
    clsk22@gmail.com

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  4. Nice page!
    I have submitted a photo of Frederick D. Hagerman’s (1866 – 1934) memorial plaque to the Pine Hills Cemetery – Scarborough, Ont. Canada site– to the find a grave site
    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hagerman&GSiman=1&GScid=639404&GRid=163973212&
    (click on photo for his lineage). I have most (if not all) of his sibs obits if you’d like same, no problem for me to cc them to you
    Hi Rich!….been a while! – just noticed a few days ago – you have submitted to Ancestry! – congrats!
    Marg (Hagerman) Hunter
    hunter@total.net

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  5. If any of you are interested in learning more about the Hagerman line back in Germany, I’d encourage you to do a DNA test. I’ve found another Canadian Hagerman cousin on 23andMe – and now I know that anyone who shares DNA with both of us has to share ancestors on this Hagerman line. Eventually I’ll find German ancestors further back, which is my goal. AncestryDNA is as good, for a little less money ($99, with frequent sales at $79 here in the US).

    Cheers, Rich
    PS – Hi Marg

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